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Honda Power?

Postby Van on Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:11 am

I know for racing purposes The 20V's are popular but I must admit NOWHERE have I seen someone do a B16A/B VTec Lotus. Or any honda motor for that matter. Is there a reason why or is it just my luck that I havent seen one yet?
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Postby Murray on Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:13 pm

One reason is trying to find a rear wheel gearbox beside the S2000.

Hope this helps
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Postby bateman.ross on Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:06 pm

The S2000 would be a hell of a car. Would love to look at that route but that power plant is gong to set you back big bucks.

Where would one even start looking for a S2000 and tranny/
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Postby Teddybear on Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:55 pm

hmmm, the honda S2000 motor and gearbox would be awesome in a lotus. 176kw at the flywheel, standard. the reason why there aint no honda powered lotus using and other honda power plant is caus all the other honda motors to my knowledge run in an anti clockwise direction.
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Postby andredp on Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:33 am

There are 2 Lotii running around sporting S2000 powerplants as far as I know. You can get a S2000 engine, box, complete with management and cabling for around R35K from some of the importers.

Problem(apart from cost) with the S2000 powertrain is that it is a fairly wide box, and tall engine.

To be honest, for R35K you can build a very strong running Supercharged or turbo-ed engine that will kick the S2000's a$$.
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Postby Gregt on Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:22 pm

The reason there are no other Honda engines used in any RWD conversions is that other than the S2000 all Honda engines run \"backwards\" so you would have 5 reverse gears and 1 forward gear.
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Postby muller on Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:50 pm

I'd LOVE a Vtec powered 7, for pure thrills I rate the Vtec above the 20v, but allas as people pointed out the honda engines turn the \"wrong\" way and there is only 1 suitable honda RWD engine + gearbox.

There is a S2000 car racing TLR, but I doubt its ever finished a race without breaking down. The chassis also needed a lot of work to make the engine and gearbox fit.

As Andre pointed out you can get similar power for a lot less $$$
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby BuzzFuzz on Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:29 am

Just going thru the forum here.

You could get a belhousing made so a V-tec would fit onto a ford or toyota box. I know in speed and sound there are a few V-tecs on cresida boxes. My guess is that they just turned the diff over to get 5 forward gears and not 5 revo's.

Just a thought.
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby muller on Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:55 pm

In therory it will work, but you are running the gearbox backwards - remeber gearbox gears are helical cut so doubt they will last very long
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby Van on Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:32 pm

BuzzFuzz wrote:Just going thru the forum here.

You could get a belhousing made so a V-tec would fit onto a ford or toyota box. I know in speed and sound there are a few V-tecs on cresida boxes. My guess is that they just turned the diff over to get 5 forward gears and not 5 revo's.

Just a thought.


Dont giv me ideas!!! :twisted:

I've alreay bought my Toyo :x
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby ross on Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:05 pm

Are we sure that running helical gears backwards is bad? The gear tooth profile is an involute and it's the same on both sides of the tooth, so regardless of direction of rotation the pressures at the point of contact would be the same. My understanding is that healical gears were developed because the transfer of power is smoother and quieter than spur gears. I think it would be worth the risk. Turning the diff upside down might make filling it with oil a problem, I'm sure you could find a way around that Pieter; eh!!
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby Van on Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:17 pm

Very easy to work around that little problem :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pieter is my father however: Van & Vanair, coincidently we share the same surname hence our usernames :wink:
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby ross on Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:28 pm

Sorry about that, I've swopped a number of e mails with your dad and I just thought you were the same person, so you are the young guy in the photos? Your dad's lucky, I have two boys and niether of them are interested in cars, but my grandaughter is showing a great deal of interest in my car
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby Van on Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:34 pm

ross wrote:Sorry about that, I've swopped a number of e mails with your dad and I just thought you were the same person, so you are the young guy in the photos? Your dad's lucky, I have two boys and niether of them are interested in cars, but my grandaughter is showing a great deal of interest in my car
Cheers,
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Well there are two young guys in the photos the one is my neighbour who owns a Kent powered 7 and the other one is me. I think its more a case of I am lucky, I`m the petrol head he is aeroplane crazy. Luckyily for me its much easier to build a car than a plane. But that will probably be the next project if I dont come home home with a rusted CJ5 or something :twisted:
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Re: Honda Power?

Postby ross on Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:38 am

CJ5 nice project, I've got a 3 year old wrangler, but the CJ series just has more character.
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